Basic Bible Truths 52 study in 2007 (Feb 18-24) BELIEVE IN THE PROPHETS AND PROSPER

MINISTRY 52 IN 2007 Basic Bible Truths 52 study in 2007 -Feb 18 to 24 - "BELIEVE IN THE PROPHETS AND PROSPER"

Greetings,

Praise the Lord that I am able to send you last week study today, this week will follow, God willing, this week too. Here is now Basic Bible Truths 52 bible study in 2007 for the week of Feb. 18 to 24- Believe in the Prophets and prosper...

"BELIEVE IN THE PROPHETS AND PROSPER"

This week I want to share with you this Biblical Truths study of an excellent study that I found well explained by Rev. Larry Ollison, a Baptist trained, Spirit filled Man of God.

Thank you for allowing God to show you what you need to meditate and make part of your Christian life. Amen!

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Believe the Prophets and Prosper by Larry Ollison, Ph.D.

"Then he arose and followed Elijah, and became his servant" (1 Kings 19:21)

The Bible tells us that Elisha served Elijah for 20 to 30 years. That takes dedication, that takes desire, and that takes patience. You cannot serve someone for nearly thirty years and not pick up something.

Elisha followed Elijah everywhere he went. He watched his every move and he learned from him. It's interesting that Elisha did not try to receive an anointing from God by overpowering Elijah or by trying to eliminate him and move him out of the way. Instead, Elisha continually learned from his mentor.

In God's timing and when everything was in its season, God removed Elijah from this earth. Because of Elisha's diligence and patience, he received the prophet Elijah's mantle. Elisha was involved in exactly double the number of miracles of Elijah. He received a double anointing.

Recently, I read a book by a great man of God who has an international ministry. This great minister did not start out that way. In fact, he spent many years serving another great man of God. He did this in humility and he did not seek his own agenda. In due season, God raised him up.

Several years ago, I knew a young man who was a marriage counselor. He had all the right education. He had a degree with the diploma hanging on the wall. He was intelligent and had a great personality. The only problem was that he himself had never been married and knew little about life in general. I’m sure that today he is a mature counselor. However, at that time he was just too young to have the experience and wisdom required to advise married couples about their lives. He had the education, but he needed wisdom.

When Loretta and I were first married, I was fresh out of college and became the pastor of a rural Southern Baptist Church. Even though I studied the Word, my sermons were not very good. Education is good, but education alone is no substitute for revelation, wisdom, and experience.

One thing I have discovered over time is this. There is wisdom in age. Of course, not every old person is wise. But, for those who have spent their lives in true ministry, serving God with all their hearts, there is wisdom that should not be wasted.

There must be respect for elders. When I was a boy, I was taught that doors should be opened for women. In the presence of elders, I was taught to speak when spoken to. The world has changed, but the church should not change.

We must tap into the wisdom and experience of our fathers in the faith. Second Chronicles 20:20 tells us to believe the prophets of God and we will prosper. Our prosperity is directly connected to our submission to the prophets of God. If we truly believe the prophets of God, then we will submit to their words. Belief in God’s Word requires submission on all levels of ministry.

After teaching this principle at a conference, a couple approached me with a worried look on their faces. The husband said, "How can we submit ourselves to another minister as a mentor? He might just be a false prophet."

It is true that the Bible says that there are false prophets in the world (1 John 4:1). But we, especially spirit-filled ministers, should not be fooled into following them. Jesus said, "My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me." According to Jesus, we know His voice. Take time to listen and another voice you will not follow.

One definition of the word intern is: "a person who works as an apprentice or trainee in an occupation or profession to gain practical experience, and sometimes also to satisfy legal or other requirements for being licensed or accepted professionally." An intern submits his time, will, and energy in order to learn from the mentor. It would be foolish to make a recent medical school graduate head of an established brain surgery team. It is no different in ministry.
We need to implement ministry internship. Elisha was an intern with Elijah. Solomon submitted to his father, David. Samuel was taught by Eli. Timothy was a student of Paul before going out on his own.

First Timothy 5:1 says, "Do not rebuke an older man, but exhort him as a father." We must respect, honor, and submit to anointed eldership.

Belief and submission are partners. To believe truth without submitting to it profits nothing. Honor eldership. Believe the true prophets of God and prosper.

So today I have this to say to all the men and women of God who are starting in ministry. Find an anointed ministry and submit. In due season when God feels you are ready, He will raise you up. "Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and He will lift you up" (James 4:10).
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God’s blessings!
© 2007 CELEBRATE JESUS! MINISTRIES
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>>> PAUSE, MEDITATE ON GOD'S WORD EVERY DAY:

"For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans to prosper you & not to harm you, plans to give you hope & a future." ~ Jer. 29:11

"In this new life one's nationality or race or education or social position is unimportant; such things mean nothing. Whether a person has Christ is what matters, & He is equally available to all" ~ Col.3:11

"The key to godliness is not more knowledge of God but more obedience to Him" ~ Rom.6:16

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* The devil is defeated and a liar. God is exalted. Jesus is Lord and Savior. *

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PRAISE THE LORD! TO GOD BE THE GLORY! JESUS IS LORD!

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NEVER TOO LATE FOR 2007 NEW YEAR RESOLUTION TO MAKE & KEEP "TO FEED OUR SPIRIT"

Greetings,

This is week of February 11 to 17 of 52 in 2007 Basic Bible Truths weekly email studies: NEVER TOO LATE FOR 2007 NEW YEAR RESOLUTION TO MAKE AND KEEP TO FEED OUR SPIRIT!

Praise the Lord! The Lord guided me to receive, read, meditate on a mailing received from Joyce Meyer Ministries. I have adapted here her excellent, Holy Spirit inspired, message.

Seems only yesterday we were making New Year 2007 resolutions… and were are those resolutions now? Most of them are forgotten and left us with a sense of frustration that we could not continue those resolutions and goals even two full months of this new year.

But, as we continue to strive in our Christian life to progress and become more in our daily life what the Lord Jesus has already accomplished for us in the spirit, we need to pause and think on a simple -not easy perhaps – but simple way to accomplish at least one resolution for this New Year 2007:

Here is just one bible verse and one heartfelt prayer for everyone to make in 2007… 2007 is the year to embrace more in our spiritual life. 2007 is the year to feed our spirit and not just the body and the soul.

This is an excellent memory verse to think about often daily and say it out loud at least three times each and every day during 2007!

Key verse: Ephesians 3:20,21:

(KJV) - Public Domain
20 Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us, 21 Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.

(NIV) © 1984 International Bible Society
20 Now to him who is able to do immeasurably more than all we ask or imagine, according to his power that is at work within us, 21 to him be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus throughout all generations, for ever and ever! Amen.

(AMP) © 1987 The Lockman Foundation
20 Now to Him Who, by (in consequence of) the [action of His] power that is at work within us, is able to [carry out His purpose and] do super abundantly, far over and above all that we [dare] ask or think [infinitely beyond our highest prayers, desires, thoughts, hopes, or dreams]-- 21 To Him be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus throughout all generations forever and ever. Amen (so be it).

And here is an excellent daily prayer for 2007 based on Key verse Ephesians 3:20 for God to manifest in each of our lives now what Jesus already accomplished, and for us that are part of His church, we all together as His Body, His church, manifest in this life. (Ephesians 3:21)

“Father, I ask that this year, by the power of Your Holy Spirit, You would enable me to:
* Discover more of Your presence
* Experience more victory
*Help change more lives as I share Your love through Jesus salvation, as I share Your Basic Bible Truths that I know with others.
* Expand more of Your Kingdom through godly fellowship with other Christians
* Provide more healing to the hurting and needy through love gifts to ministries of excellence that provide for them.
* Overcome more darkness with Your light by “walking the walk as well as talking the Word”
* And embrace more of the life You destined me to live –by learning from your Word Who Jesus is and Who I am in Him (Christ) in this live now.

It is only by Your grace that I can accomplish these things. I place my trust in You for this to be the greatest year of my life.

In Jesus’ Name, AMEN!

God’s blessings!
© 2007 CELEBRATE JESUS! MINISTRIES
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Intercessory prayer partner reminder:

“Thank you” dear partner for your commitment to pray for “Celebrate Jesus! Ministries” 1 minute every day at anytime convenient to you, not necessarily during your personal prayer time or personal devotions.

>>> PAUSE, MEDITATE ON GOD'S WORD EVERY DAY:

"For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans to prosper you & not to harm you, plans to give you hope & a future." ~ Jer. 29:11

"In this new life one's nationality or race or education or social position is unimportant; such things mean nothing. Whether a person has Christ is what matters, & He is equally available to all" ~ Col.3:11

"The key to godliness is not more knowledge of God but more obedience to Him" ~ Rom.6:16

Everyone is invited to visit these websites that are our Christian outreach > prayerfully reaching souls in the internet one 'CLICK' at a time [TM] <

Celebrate Jesus - God's gift of eternal life= http://compacturl.com/jrpg

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* The devil is defeated and a liar. God is exalted. Jesus is Lord and Savior. *

PRAISE THE LORD! TO GOD BE THE GLORY! JESUS IS LORD!

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God is awesome! His open doors blessing expanding outreaches of ministries!

God is awesome! His open doors blessing expanding outreaches of ministries!

Greetings,

First my “thank you!” to the 18 new members that have joined The Pocket Testament League through my messages here.

“ Thank you!” also to many that are sharing their encouraging stories, and posting prayers for their ministry outreaches as they give out the Free Gospels of John they have received from the League.

Remember every new member, you can request FREE Gospels of John every month, that you have a choice of what cover and what version you what to receive on every month you order your FREE Gospels of John!

I wish I could create a ‘marquee’ for this message to share my enthusiasm and the many blessings I have and many other League members are receive from our membership, but here are a little encouragement for you to visit their website and read their links with lots of information about The League, such as who started the League (hint: a teen girl from a famous family), how many have requested their Bible study from reading a Gospel of John given by a league’s member or found at a bus stop, public phone, store shelf) - read them through my link at: https://www.pocketpower.org/code/signup.php?promo=bannerclick&sponsorcd=199335

Also as a member of the League we receive spiritual benefits since as a member of the League, you'll be motivated and encouraged to:

* READ God's Word each day
* CARRY God's Word with you wherever you go, and
* SHARE God's Word with others as He gives you opportunities (face-to-face and by placing them in locations that you feel the Lord will use to reach those He will reach)

When you visit the League at my link at: https://www.pocketpower.org/code/signup.php?promo=bannerclick&sponsorcd=199335 - you will find a "Welcome" site with links to information about How membership works, Benefits of membership, Join the League, Invite a Friend, Create Web Account, Update Your Profile, and more!

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Praise the Lord! To God be the Glory! Jesus is Lord!
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WHO IS IN CHARGE? 'a text out of context becomes a pretext' -52 in 2007 Basic Bible Truths weekly study

Greetings,

MESSAGE TITLE: WHO IS IN CHARGE? 'a text out of context becomes a pretext' 52 in 2007 Basic Bible Truths week study:

The message for this week of February 4 to 10th is in context of the Basic Bible Truths series of 52 weeks of study ins 2007 that is a ‘hidden’ Truth of God’s Will for us because of the amount of disagreement and discussions on this topic of women call to the ministry:

It came to my attention in another board the use of God's Word to justify gender bias... I had been there, done that, I repented, God forgave me, I dusted myself and I am walking on the ministry God has called me to do...

Perhaps the reason of so much heated discussions is the ‘carnal’ mind, even born-again Christians that are still ‘babes’ unable to eat the meat of the Word of God because they are too immature to be able to learn the Word’s Basic Bible Truths to apply to their lives, so their own minds are at war, an enmity, with God’s Will and when someone ‘feels in the right’ all spiritual guidance of the Holy Spirit is disregarded.

However, once the issue must be backed up with Scriptures in order to convince others of how right the person’s own conclusion is…

It had been said that ‘a text out of context becomes a pretext’ to prove anything we want to believe and base it on the Bible. I remember an evangelist said that in a sermon, and then said I will show you how is done and is wrong… do you know that I look the way I look because is in the Bible? And that is God’s promise for me? (people began to snicker and laugh since he is kind of overweight) and then he added, look with me to Leviticus 3:16 and read what it says:

The priest shall burn them on the altar as food, offered by fire, for a sweet and satisfying fragrance. All the fat is the Lord's. He paused until most everybody stopped laughing, then he look at the audience and said: I told you that I could find one scripture out of context to blame God for how my body looks!

Therefore, all that is to tell you about a message that I found at a board a few days ago that reminded me of that, and of the danger of using the Word of God as a pretext for our own human religious reasoning and conclusions…

So, here is the message and the follow up, you reach your own conclusion on this matter!

THE MESSAGE THAT STARTED THIS DISCUSSION: WHOSE IN CHARGE?

Posted by xxxxxx on February 8, 2007, 11:44 am

BUT WHAT I FOUND IN THE MESSAGE WITHOUT A MESSAGE, JUST A LINK with a message proving that God does not want women to be pastors and ministers, is called:

SHORT, AND TO THE POINT! Bible-Based Commentary WHOSE IN CHARGE?

And uses Isaiah 3:12 as the single text as a pretext to prove it.

… I read the message and realized is using the Word of God to say that some New Testament believers are NOT under God’s calling to minister …

If that single scripture is true for us today to discriminate against women called by God to minister, then why the Bible says in Galatians 3:28: There is [now no distinction] neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is not male and female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. (AMPL)

After prayerful consideration I posted my first response to this message:

Posted by xxx on February 8, 2007, 12:42 pm, in reply to "WHOSE IN CHARGE?"

Hi,

today I opened this post that has no message only a link to an internet website... when I clicked at the site given what I read there seems that is about women in ministry not been God's Will for us today and against denominations and ministries that allow women to serve as ministers...

I am confused!... is this group here at xxxxxxxxxxx for or against women calling to ministry? Thank you for having some explanation to this post that seems to be against what xxxxxxxxx is all about.

Thank you! Enclosed link to: ZOE - God's kind of life: http://www.urlsnip.com/264589

Then a response to my reply was posted:

Posted by brother xxxxx on February 8, 2007, 12:55 pm, in reply to "Re: WHOSE IN CHARGE?"

The scriptures in context, focus on the subject of headship of the man in the family and household. The verses quoted are from the bible, and they mean exactly what they say.

Nothing in my message says women are unfit for ministry, as God calls ALL BELIEVERS to minister in some capacity as members of the Body of Christ. By default, a minister is NOT a position of authority in a church. (unless they also hold a position of leadership in the church)

Personally, I believe the bible teaches us women should not have AUTHORITY over men. This would mean a woman could be a minister, but not the pastor of a church. (as I read and understand the scriptures) Read the bible, and determine this for yourself.
But again, my post was focused on leadership in the family and household unit...

To which I responded with this message:

Posted by xxx on February 8, 2007, 1:18 pm, in reply to "Re: WHOSE IN CHARGE?"

Thank you for prompt reply! : )

The married woman and a woman (married or single) in ministry are two different things and when we mix them up we get a toxic brew... as a woman I had gone through these same reasonings on this matter...I thank God that I found and I have read books that show light on this situation:

* 25 Tough Questions about Women and the Church by J. Lee Grady (Charisma House)

* 10 Lies the Church Tells Women by J. Lee Grady (Charisma House)

* a woman's search for worth by Dr. Deborah Newman (Tyndale)

* Lies Women Believe by Nancy Leigh DeMoss (MOODY)

Praying that the Lord's Will prevails in every Christian to have a clear understanding of His Will for each one of us and that we do not waste time and energy over these areas and concentrate in witnessing God's salvation to a lost world going to hell on a wide highway!

Peace!

My Link to: ABOUT YOU: http://www.smallerurl.com/?id=hxq88qd

… then I waited for responses to this topic from others as I knew the original message writer was not going to change position on this topic… here are some that you can read them here after my last reply at this board:

Thank you pastor xxxx for your comments...

Here is my final post to this topic:

Greetings,

I had visited this board twice so it is a record time to be in ‘hot water’ over difference of beliefs in the New Testament calling to ministry due to gender... in this instance on women in leadership... it could seems that God is capricious or changes His mind about this issue that divide Christians, if women are not to be leaders of His people why then God appointed women in leadership roles in the Old Testament and Jesus ministry to women in a daily basis as recorded in the Gospels?, Paul recognizing women as leaders in the early churches?

I know that God is not the author of the confusion, so it must be us!

I will not waste time in a debate over this issue, everyone needs to be convinced in their own minds... I know that no one will change their minds once they are made up on any subject when they base their reasoning and decisions on Bible scriptures without comparing that one or more to the whole counsel of God.

So here is something to think about in this and many other areas of disagreements among Christian. So, let us examine the Word of God regarding every Christian own walk of faith in personal salvation through confession that Jesus is our Lord and Savior.

A few Scriptures to use as yardstick in matters where everyone is not ‘in the same page’ are found in Philippians 2:12; Philippians 4:7 and Matthew 9:29 -quotes are from the AMPL version with permission as required by Copyright Laws:

Philippians 2:12

Therefore, my dear ones, as you have always obeyed [my suggestions], so now, not only [with the enthusiasm you would show] in my presence but much more because I am absent, work out (cultivate, carry out to the goal, and fully complete) your own salvation with reverence and awe and trembling (self-distrust, with serious caution, tenderness of conscience, watchfulness against temptation, timidly shrinking from whatever might offend God and discredit the name of Christ).

Philippians 4:7 And God's peace [shall be yours, that tranquil state of a soul assured of its salvation through Christ, and so fearing nothing from God and being content with its earthly lot of whatever sort that is, that peace] which transcends all understanding shall garrison and mount guard over your hearts and minds in Christ Jesus.

Matthew 9:29 {Jesus spoke and said to them} …according to your faith and trust and reliance [on the power invested in Me] be it done to you;

In regard to women in Leadership positions let's see God’s Will in the Old Testament - God appointed women to leadership over men like Deborah and by default of Barak lack confidence in her leadership and refusal to go into battle alone, God then also used a woman: Yael, the clan leader's wife - to defeat the enemy:

Judges 4:8-10[NIV]8 Barak said to her, "If you go with me, I will go; but if you don't go with me, I won't go"

9 "Very well," Deborah said, "I will go with you. But because of the way you are going about this, the honor will not be yours, for the LORD will hand Sisera over to a woman." So Deborah went with Barak to Kedesh, 10 where he summoned Zebulun and Naphtali. Ten thousand men followed him, and Deborah also went with him.

Read account from Judges 4 online: http://www.amit.org.il/learning/english/JW/Deborah.htmhttp://www.cameronlaw.com/study/139.php

And in the New Testament we have many accounts of Jesus and women telling everyone (includes men) about what He had done or said like the woman at the well, the Samaritan woman in John 4… and how she went to tell others about Jesus been the Messiah, the Savior: John 4: 4- 43:

28 - Then the woman left her water jar and went away to the town. And she began telling the people,

29 Come, see a Man Who has told me everything that I ever did! Can this be [is not this] the Christ? [Must not this be the Messiah, the Anointed One?]

… through her ‘evangelism’ the town went to see Jesus, believed and asked Him to stay with them (Jesus did and stayed there 2 days) and when many were saved by Jesus talking to them, they said to the woman in verse 42: “ And they told the woman, Now we no longer believe (trust, have faith) just because of what you said; for we have heard Him ourselves [personally], and we know that He truly is the Savior of the world, the Christ.

Luke 24:10 Now it was Mary Magdalene and Joanna and Mary the mother of James, and the other women with them, who reported these things to the apostles.

John 20:17-19 17 Jesus said to her, Do not cling to Me [do not hold Me], for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to My brethren and tell them, I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.

18 Away came Mary Magdalene, bringing the disciples news (word) that she had seen the Lord and that He had said these things to her.

19 Then on that same first day of the week, when it was evening, though the disciples were behind closed doors for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood among them and said, Peace to you!

So, I say to the women ordained by Rev. xxxxxxxxx, Ph.D. Senior Pastor and ordaining leader at this xxxxxxxxxxx Fellowship the quote of Admiral David Glasgow Farragut (1801-1870) : “*** the torpedoes, full speed ahead!”

Here is a site with information on women in ministry:
http://ag.org/top/Beliefs/Position_Papers/pp_4191_women_ministry.cfm

God's blessings!

* Praise the Lord! * To God be the glory! * Jesus is Lord!

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Also I received personal emails of those reading messages and their responses:

----- Original Message -----

To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: Fear Not sister!!

Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 09:57:02 -0800 (PST)

May the Peace of Christ be upon you sister,

DO NOT let that example of verse slinging enrage you. The person who submitted that link was in my unsolicited opinion being most irresponsible. That is not the view or the opinion of everyone on that board and I want you to know you can find a friend in me. I believe that if God chose the Virgin Mary as a Holy enough vessel for the Son of God, that woman (and women!) is also capable of ministering to mankind. After all, did not Mary minister to all of us when she gave birth to our savior? God could have simply made Christ materialize as a grown man but HE chose to use Woman for such a vital purpose. When he did so it was the BEGINNING of woman's role in the church, not the end.

I can promise you that this person either did not think about what they were writing, didn't pray about it, or at the very least simple opposes my views on this matter. Please understand again that this person does NOT speak for all of us!! God bless and keep you sister, and pray for this person that the Holy Spirit will descend upon them and fill them with wisdom.

your friend, xxxx

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To: xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: my final message on the subject of women as leaders in the church...
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 21:17:19 -0800 (PST)

One more thing good sister,

On the web site, he has listed the verses he CHOSE to argue his point. Each verse from the New Testament ends on his web site with a semi-colon, which means that there is more to follow...

Look up the verses and read further and you'll see more clarification of the statements he has clearly taken out of context. This is precisely the type of irresponsible verse slinging that leads to men in wife beaters, holding a beer and ordering their wives to get out of the way of the TV. (and much, much worse...)

Now, I have chosen not to post on the topic in the forum because I am dangerously close to getting banned already so I don't wish to be viewed as rabble rousing. ;-) but know in your heart that there are always going to be Men out there that are threatened by women leaders, and I expect this man's posting and the recent announcement of Hilary Clinton's intentions to run for President are not mere coincidence. While I am not a member of the Hilary fan club, I see nothing wrong with a Woman President, after all it has been the leadership of MEN that has dragged this country down as far as it is now! ;-)

Goodnight and God Bless sister!

your friend, xxxxxxxxxx

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To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: my final message on the subject of women as leaders in the church...
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 20:25:13 -0800 (PST)

God Bless you sister,

Forgive the tardiness of this reply as I was headed to work right after I sent my e-mail earlier.

I am sorry that Women have to work so hard in this age, to defend themselves against fellow Christians. This is EXACTLY why Paul warned against denominations in his letter to the Corinthians. You are 100% correct about women in leadership roles. Christ relied upon Women so very much, and it was women who first saw him resurrected and believed. Remember the Disciples didn't believe at first, but the women did. How often is it that it's the Wife who leads the family to Christianity in the home, while the man stays home pouting over a football game, and the Mother gathers the children and takes them off to Sunday service? Shamefully too often. Is a Woman expected to be subservient to that?! Of course not. Let us not forget that also in the sacrament of marriage, Woman and Man cease to exist as individuals but are joined together as one. Would a man go around all day long telling himself to do things? Of course not, even by today's standards he'd be considered a lunatic.

In our home, My wife is me, and I am her. Our children know that we are a united front, should they come to me with anything, mom will know of it, and vice-versa. No decisions are made but that aren't in concert between my wife and I. If we do not reach a unanimous decision, the answer is usually "no". Perhaps that's why we have been married for 19 years. Or, perhaps as this man put it, I give way to make the peace in my home. Well, did not Christ himself say, blessed are the peacemakers? ;-)

Please do not let this person get you down. you have my continued prayers &friendship!

yours in Christ,
xxxxxxxxxxxxx

here is personal number- call anytime, my wife is the best in the world, she's great to talk to too! ;-)

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Also there are others with their replies too:

Posted by Rev. xxxxxxxxx on February 8, 2007, 10:12 pm, in reply to "Re: WHOSE IN CHARGE?"

AMEN; on the full speed ahead,,, The church I fellowship at here has a woman pastor, my mom is ordained by brother Dave as well as my wife.

Link: XXX XXX XXXXX

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Posted by Pastor xxxxxxxxxxx on February 8, 2007, 7:02 pm, in reply to "WHOSE IN CHARGE?"

I believe we must also remember the society trends in the time that these verses were put to pen, at that time women were not considered

equal, today they are, and I for one have found some women who are much more called and fit for the pastorate then some men. The Bible tells us " So God created humankind, in His image, in the image of God he created them male and female He created them." (Gen.1:27) (NRSV)

Sounds pretty equal to me.

Blessings. Pastor xxxxxxxx

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Posted by Rev.xxxxxxx on February 8, 2007, 11:24 pm, in reply to "Re: WHOSE IN CHARGE?"

Amen, Pastor xxxxxxx,

We need to keep in mind the context in terms of the culture at the time the Scriptures were written. What does one's gender have to do with one's calling in the eyes of God? As Paul tells us in 1 Corinthians 13, we are looking into a mirror dimly lit in this lifetime, and will only see clearly in the next life when we are with God.

God bless,

Rev. xxxx

Finally God’s Word that could apply this topic can be found by reading Jesus words in Matthew 5, we call this THE BEATITUDES, here is a link to that chapter:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=47&chapter=5&version=45&context=chapter

Also James 3:17-18: God’s Wisdom is available to each Christian producing peace which means concord, agreement, and harmony between individuals, with undisturbedness, in a peaceful mind free from fears and agitating passions and moral conflicts].
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James%203:17-18;&version=45;

And 1 Corinthians 13: (Without God’s kind of love nothing we do as Christians is of any good): http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Cor.%2013;&version=45;

My prayers that everyone reading and meditating on this message can live and minister as the Apostle Paul did and wrote about in 2 Cor. 2:14-17:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Cor.%202:14-17;&version=45;

God’s blessings!
{2 Cor. 2:14-17} : )

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REMINDER TO EVERYONE READING THIS BIBLE STUDY SERIES:

“Thank you” for your commitment to pray for CELEBRATE JESUS! MINISTRIES for "1 minute every day" at anytime convenient to you, not necessarily during your own personal prayer time or personal devotions.

YOU ARE ENCOURAGED TO PAUSE, MEDITATE ON GOD'S WORD TODAY:

"For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans to prosper you & not to harm you, plans to give you hope & a future." - Jer. 29:11

"In this new life one's nationality or race or education or social position is unimportant; such things mean nothing. Whether a person has Christ is what matters, & He is equally available to all" - Col.3:11

"The key to godliness is not more knowledge of God but more obedience to Him" - Rom.6:16

Everyone is invited to visit these websites that are our Christian outreach to * prayerfully reach souls in the internet one 'CLICK' at a time [TM] *

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Sisters in Christ/Woman to Woman Christian Witness= http://compacturl.com/zfno

Yahoo group - Jesus Saves Follow Him 'Sisters in Christ/Woman to Woman witness'= http://compacturl.com/gsdx

ZOE: God's kind of life=http://urlsnip.com/264589

Help for parent/youth leaders protect children= http://compacturl.com/whsv

Celebrate Jesus Ministries 2-Fold Outreach= http://compacturl.com/fzhv

Yahoo group - Celebrate Jesus 2-Fold Outreach= http://compacturl.com/iteg

Minister Gospel 2 - Christian Minister 2 - Grateful Christian messages Blog= http://compacturl.com/vmgf

CANADA Yahoo group - Jesus saves, follow Him= http://compacturl.com/sdqx

God's Word on Love and Marriage= http://compacturl.com/jdhr

God's Word on Homosexuality= http://compacturl.com/ovgq

Yahoo group - Jesus Saves - Follow Him 2= http://compacturl.com/vfjc

Mawy Art Studio Homepage= http://compacturl.com/fcyh

Mawy Art Gallery= http://compacturl.com/iqzf

My Tribute to Heroes and Survivors of 9/11/01 Terror attacks on America= http://compacturl.com/icgs

One Solitary Life is Jesus= http://compacturl.com/dajs

NEW: SPANISH CHRISTIAN WITNESS WEBSITES:

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Celebremos a Jesus – el Regalo de Dios para Vida Eterna:
http://compacturl.com/nicn

WHEN 'LIFE CHALLENGES' CHALLENGE YOUR FAITH GO TO THE WORD OF GOD REGARDING THAT CHALLENGE – REMEMBER:

* The devil is defeated and a liar.

* God is exalted.

*Jesus is Lord and Savior of every born-again Christian!

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PRAISE THE LORD! TO GOD BE THE GLORY! JESUS IS LORD!

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(c) 2007 - CELEBRATE JESUS! MINISTRIES.

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The words that we speak open 2 doors: be careful, make the right choice! - 52 Basic Bible Truths weekly study in 2007

The words that we speak open 2 doors: be careful, make the right choice! - 52 Basic Bible Truths weekly study in 2007

Greetings,

Here is a short study on the power of the words we speak that I received from Mrs. Vicky R. Benson, Director of Prayer Mobilization, World Missionary Press, PO Box 120, New Paris, IN 46553-0120.

WMP website offer free downloads of their witnessing outreach tracts, gospels, and other information at: http://www.wmpress.org/index.shtml

With my grateful acknowledgment, here is her encouraging note for WMP February-March, 2007 prayer and praise requests:

As a child growing up, I was impacted by my fourth-grade teacher… as she led the class in reciting Psalm 19:14 every morning. “ May the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be pleasing in your sight, O LORD, my Rock and my Redeemer.”

How important our words are, spoken out of the abundance of the meditation of our hearts! James noticed something amiss among his fellow believers: “Out of the same mouth proceed blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not to be so.” James 3 is a sobering chapter, worthy of prayerful study.

You can also click this link to read Psalm 19:14 in the Amplified version at:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James%203;&version=45;

1. SPOKEN WORDS ARE POWERFUL. Jesus resisted temptation by the devil when He quoted God’s words aloud. Jesus SAID, “It is written” (Luke 4). Satan had to leave.

2. SPOKEN WORDS HAVE IMMEASURABLE CONSEQUENCES. “Death and life are in the power of the tongue” (Proverbs 18:21a). The tongue is full of poison, defiling us, and is like a spark setting a forest fire (James 3).

3. SPOKEN WORDS REVEAL THE NEED FOR CLEANSING. When Isaiah was in the awesome presence of the Lord, he responded, “Woe is me, for I am undone! Because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips” (Isaiah 6:5a). When Isaiah’s lips were cleansed, he was ready for ministry.

4. SPOKEN WORDS REVEAL CHRISTIAN MATURITY. “If anyone does not stumble in word, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle the whole body” (James 3:2b). [Remember that ‘man’ was created ‘male AND female’ by God].

5. SPOKEN WORDS CAN MINISTER GRACE TO OTHERS. “Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.” (Ephesians 4:29).

Yours for trusting God to cleanse our tongues, that we speak God’s words of life to others that hear us and to ourselves as we hear ourselves. Amen!

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REMINDER:

*** TO EVERYONE READING THIS BIBLE STUDY SERIES:

“Thank you” for your commitment to pray for CELEBRATE JESUS! MINISTRIES for "1 minute every day" at anytime convenient to you, not necessarily during your own personal prayer time or personal devotions.

PAUSE, MEDITATE ON GOD'S WORD EVERY DAY:

"For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans to prosper you & not to harm you, plans to give you hope & a future." - Jer. 29:11

"In this new life one's nationality or race or education or social position is unimportant; such things mean nothing. Whether a person has Christ is what matters, & He is equally available to all" - Col.3:11

"The key to godliness is not more knowledge of God but more obedience to Him" - Rom.6:16

Everyone is invited to visit these websites that are our Christian outreach to prayerfully reach souls in the internet one 'CLICK' at a time [TM]

Celebrate Jesus - God's gift of eternal life= http://compacturl.com/jrpg

Jesus is God's only way for salvation= http://compacturl.com/gmsh

ABOUT YOU= http://smallerurl.com/?id=hxq88qd

Sisters in Christ/Woman to Woman Christian Witness= http://compacturl.com/zfno

Yahoo group - Jesus Saves Follow Him 'Sisters in Christ/Woman to Woman witness'= http://compacturl.com/gsdx

ZOE -God's Kind of Life= http://urlsnip.com/264589

Help for parent/youth leaders protect children= http://compacturl.com/whsv

Celebrate Jesus Ministries 2-Fold Outreach= http://compacturl.com/fzhv

Yahoo group - Celebrate Jesus 2-Fold Outreach= http://compacturl.com/iteg

Minister Gospel - Grateful Christian messages Blog= http://compacturl.com/vmgf

CANADA Yahoo group - Jesus saves, follow Him= http://compacturl.com/sdqx

God's Word on Love and Marriage= http://compacturl.com/jdhr

God's Word on Homosexuality= http://compacturl.com/ovgq

Yahoo group - Jesus Saves - Follow Him 2= http://compacturl.com/vfjc

Mawy Art Studio Homepage= http://compacturl.com/fcyh

Mawy Art Gallery= http://compacturl.com/iqzf

My Tribute to Heroes and Survivors of 9/11/01 Terror attacks on America=

http://compacturl.com/icgs

One Solitary Life is Jesus= http://compacturl.com/dajs

*** NEW: SPANISH CHRISTIAN WITNESS WEBSITES:

Hermanas en Cristo/De Mujer a Mujer Testimonio Cristiano:

http://compacturl.com/xdqq

Celebremos a Jesus – el Regalo de Dios para Vida Eterna:

http://compacturl.com/nicn

AND REMEMBER WHEN 'LIFE CHALLENGES' –

* The devil is defeated and a liar.

* God is exalted.

*Jesus is Lord and Savior of every born-again Christian! *

PRAISE THE LORD! TO GOD BE THE GLORY! JESUS IS LORD!

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Sharing encouraging message on how Christians can destroy the Works of the devil

Praise the Lord! sharing encouraging messages! To God be the Glory!

Greetings,

I want to share here two encouraging recent messages!

To God be the Glory!

* Today I received this email:

I praise the Lord for His blessings to Christian outreach through messages encouraging Christians to join THE POCKET TESTAMENT LEAGUE ministries by signing in to receive their FREE Gospels of John –that include a correspondence Bible Study too.

This is the email I received today from the Pocket Testament League on one of the dedicated Christians that joined them:

Dear sponsoring member:

A member you referred has posted a story to The Pocket Testament League web site! Pocket Testament League new member Phyllis C., who joined the League because of you, posted a story on 02/03/2007.

Thank you for your influence. The impact of one person telling another has made an incredible impact for Christ over the centuries. This applies not only to your efforts to share Gospels, but also to multiplying your ministry by encouraging your Christian friends to share their faith with others. Every person you recruit as an active member will make an impact for eternity. Jesus said, "The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few." (Matthew 9:37). This remains true today. Your involvement is precious. To review the members who have joined as a result of your direct referral, you can visit your member impact report at any time.

In Christ,
Mike Brickley - President

PS: You may or may not be aware of our powerful "invite a friend" online invitation. Just fill in your friend's name and E-mail address, and we'll send them an attractive E-mail invitation to join the League. You can customize your invitation with words of your own. To invite a friend now, click here: http://www.smallerurl.com/?id=iv5rxcr

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Here is the story from Phyllis C.: - Posted 02/03/2007 from Halifax, NS CANADA, and UCFM member! :

I plan to give these gospels to many people as I run a larger prayer ministry and I teach Bible in a seminary and do a lot of witnessing. Thank you for this opportunity to share the love of God.

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* PRAISE THE LORD! * TO GOD BE THE GLORY! * JESUS IS LORD!
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I want to share with you also this message at received at another board I am a member, it’s from Michael M. on examples to remind us that it is every Christian’s purpose to destroy the works of the devil by SHARING THE GOSPEL –through the Pocket Testament League is an easy way, visit link at: https://www.pocketpower.org/code/signup.php?promo=bannerclick&sponsorcd=199335 - the same is true of us every time we encourage someone, give to the poor, pray for the sick, help someone overcome a sin or even find forgiveness for an offense we are destroying the works of the devil…

* Destroy the Works of the Devil

1 John 3:8 says “…the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.”

Jesus was to be our example and this reminds us that it is also our purpose to destroy the works of the devil.

This reminds me of when the British were at war against the American militias during the revolution. Truthfully the Americans had a great disadvantage. Our militias were unorganized, unpaid, without solid leadership, they had to finance their own weapons and ammunition, and quite often ran from battle. On the contrary Brittan was the World power and strongest, best trained army in the world at that time. America should have been defeated, but instead we won because of two simple reasons.

1. We were hard headed and would not surrender.
2. We learned that we might not be able to defeat the British in hand to hand combat, but we could tear down their administration.

Every time the British advanced and set up a government in a city or town, our militias would move in after the British armies left and would destroy the administration that the British had established. This caused the British to have to break their armies down in smaller battalions to attempt to keep their established order thereby making them more vulnerable to American attacks. That is how America won the war for Independence.

The same is true of us as we follow the path of Jesus and “destroy the works of the devil.” Every time we encourage someone, give to the poor, pray for the sick, share the Gospel, help someone overcome a sin or even find forgiveness for an offense we are destroying the works of the devil.

Let’s go out and tear downs some demonic strongholds in Jesus’ name!

Michael M.

May all that you do prosper (Psalm chapter 1)

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